Molders choice
By M_Ousley
Published: August 25th, 2008
Published: August 25th, 2008
OK - so I'll be the first on this forum too.
How many of you blame management for your difficulties in trying to run a 'tight' shop a
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RE: Molders choice
>4. Import and export balance? Well, I believe in free trade, so good luck is all I can say on that one.
There is a sizable difference between free trade and fair trade. I believe in fair trade, which doesn't really exist yet.
Michael Ousley
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>OK - so I'll be the
>first on this forum too.
>
>
>How many of you blame management
>for your difficulties in trying
>to run a 'tight' shop
>and lack of profits ?
>
>
>How many of you buy foreign
>products, no matter what country
>you're from? Why?
>
>How many of you think management
>is honest and fair?
>
>How many of you think that
>a common balance should be
>reached on imports and exports?
>
>
>How many of you are tired
>of your job and what
>you perceive as 'getting ahead'
>?
>
>How many of you feel underpaid,
>overworked, non effectual, and just
>filling in? How does
>management , sales , and
>Marketing affect your daily economy.
> Is your company growing?
> Are you afraid you'll
>loose your job? Do
>you see a change in
>management techniques in the last
>3 years?
>
>I'm not trying to incite a
>negative riot, I'm trying to
>survey the emotions/action/reactions of the
>molding world.
Wow, an old post, but an interesting one.
I wonder how the people who posted on this are doing these days....anyone one of you still around and in the biz?
1. Our management seems pretty hands-off. A lot of the responsibilites are up to us. I don't know if they are lazy, or is it Korean style, or because of the language barrier? Are they to blame for a lack of profits? Well, sometimes I'd like a little motivation from them. (the positive kind of course!)
2. Not too many 'foreign' porducts in Korea. I buy whatever is locally made. when stateside, I choose based on design and quality, not patriotism or price. You want me to buy your product? Better make it a good one.
3. This seems to relate a bit to #1, but I'd say in my company management is honest and fair. Although I've had some coworkers who'd disagree.
4. Import and export balance? Well, I believe in free trade, so good luck is all I can say on that one.
5. Tired of my job? Sometimes I sure am. It can get a little boring in the sales department during the summer. I need to be busy to enjoy my job...
6. Underpaid? Not right now. Our company is growing so I feel pretty useful. Sometimes I want to go back to teaching, that's where I really felt effective, but I'm doing well here. I'm not afraid of losing my job. Can't answer the last question about mangement change.
I sure hope some others will post on this thread again, it's pretty interesting to get the others opinions.
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RE: Molders choice
Yes I know how you feel. I was with a fortune 100 injetion molding company for 10 years at the time they worked hard on the techinical side and were very good at it. Because i was always techinical this was a great fit. I took a transfer down to the south (would never move back north) as the Techinical manager the position I still hold but watched as poltics took over the company my plant was sold thank goodness before the fall of the giant. They are still in business but now run by another giant.
I love the techinical managment side of thigs but I still manage to ruin clothes cause I still like solving the problem.
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PlasticsPusher,
I’m a few years yonger than you and have always been on the technical side as well. I have deep respect for hard-working, resposible and smart people.
Take care.
Bob M
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Bob,
My experience over my 25 years has been mostly on the technical side. I have supervised hands on processing for 23 years. My ambition was to work my way into Production Managers responsibilities so I could oversee more areas of the plant and try to pull a team together with same disciplines and expectations throughout the group. It seems that my experience on the molding floor keeps me attached to the technical hands on side. Its ok, but I am 46 now and someday hope not to be crawling all over these machines. Working for the this company, there seems to be someones buddy in another plant thats moved into the upper management positions. Most of our manager changes come from within the corporation. I now find myself as a single parent of 2 kids who is married to a salary and am not comfortable with stepping outside of this facility and trying to start over. I made the choices that put me where I am and take responsibility for that. But I have a lot of young guys working for me and I hope they take different avenues than I took. But again, I feel the molding arena is just getting larger in our area and the opportunities of choice will be greater for them.
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PlasticsPusher,
I could see your passion with the company but what prevent you from trying to get into the management yourself with this much experience you have? Be your own boss. That’s what I did – I developed some product and started my business on the ninth anniversary after I moved to a new country. Now I can decide what I like to do, not by others.
Good luck.
Bob M
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I work for a Tier 2 automotive supplier in injection molding. I am working in the southeast where I call home. Molding is just starting to spread into this area to a degree that offers options for changing employers without having to move your family across the country.
I have just a couple of comments. The company I work for is a national company with numerous plants. In my facility we tend to change managers quite often. With the management change, so does the focus of the plant change. The last group of managers were from an engineering background and we were starting to develope new and exciting processes such as cavity pressure control that would only enhance our products, as well as making life easier for the processors. Then we had a change of managers that were financial guys. The technical improvements stopped and we seem to be headed downhill as far as technology. Everything you need is scrutinized and if I order 4 items, I get 2 items.
I have been here since startup 14 years ago and have had 9 different managers. I see that every time your manager changes, your career starts over. You become just an employee number again and all those late nites and accomplishments you have made are of no benefit to your advancement hopes. So it seems that what should have been a career, just turns into a lifetime job.
Dont get me wrong, molding has been good to me and supported my family. I stay here by choice, because I believe in roots at home. But I see good molders careers in this area suppressed because the management knew it was hard for an employee to leave and find a job down the street in molding. I will stay here and wait for the next management swing to see the new direction. I see it as a crap shoot.
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I have to agree with Brent. I worked for a major housewares company for 6 years where the top management was from England. Politics ruled the company. To get ahead you had to go to all of the company functions, join the company bowling team and help top manegement with personal projects on the weekends. All hard to do when you run the graveyard shift.
Now I work for a family owned Medical device company with full control of the molding operations and a president who values my opinions and views. What a blessing to be able to see how my work helps the company progress. Sure there is always the difficult job to iron out but nothing makes you feel good like walking in and finding the hard job you worked on all day still running.
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When working for larger corporations, I felt that one was judged on ones political rather than technical or managerial merits. Every year there was a new president and his staff in one company, with the resulting yearly management philosophy, and weekly mostly on Friday, the new organizational chart came in over the fax.
Red tape kept things from getting done, it was frustrating.
Am now working for a family owned mold building/molding company. The owners are all technical, even though they are moldmakers by trade, (joke intended) they are great to get along with after corporate politicians.
Molding is fun, and a good job gets appreciated no matter where you work, if the leadership is right. As Babs said, any situation is what you make of it. All top and middle management should study and practice Total Quality Management, and Deming. Make the workplace fun, where the people close to the process is taken into account. There should be NO FEAR, no fear of failure, no fear to offer opinions. The atmosphere should be that people are eager to go to work each day, and feel part of the team. This is a lot more important than money ( once needs are met)
I can't think of anything I'd rather do. There are jobs and days from hell, but when you get that job from hell running a consistently good cycle and under quote, you feel good.
Again, LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE ON THE FLOOR! They can help you solve your problems.
A good molder should always be able to find work, politicians have a harder time.
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Babs,
Actually there was an article in today's paper that was a survey on people's job satisfaction compared to 1996. It is overall depressing but I don't know that I agree with its content. I was more or less testing the waters of Injection Molding as an industry and hoped it was not that typical of job satisfaction. Upper and lower salaries were what surprised me. Middle of the road salaries and job functions seemed to be the most disgruntled.
Where does the average molder stand ? Don't feel sorry for me, I'm a happy camper.
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"How many of you blame management for your difficulties in trying to run a 'tight' shop and lack of profits?" Not me
"How many of you think management is honest and fair?" I do. They act when you speak up. If they don't hear about your problems and concerns, they can't act on them. It's your responsibility to speak up, and in general management is fair.
"How many of you are tired of your job and what you perceive as 'getting ahead' ?" Not me. I'm glad to be employed in this economy. I know a lot of people who have exhausted their unemployment and they're having trouble keeping their homes and feeding their kids. No complaints here. I feel I earn a good wage for the work I do.
How many of you feel underpaid, overworked, non effectual, and just filling in?
Not me. When I've felt underpaid and overworked or ineffectual, I've spoken up or moved on. My work and my contentment (or lack thereof) with my job is MY responsibility. It is not management's job to baby-sit me and make sure I'm happy. It's MY job.
How does management , sales , and Marketing affect your daily economy. Is your company growing? Are you afraid you'll loose your job? Do you see a change in management techniques in the last 3 years? Company is growing or experiencing flat growth... which isn't bad in this economy. And I believe in the programs they're focusing on for the future. I see a change in management techniques in that people are being held more accountable for their actions and their contributions... very similar to what our culture is experiencing as a whole.
"I'm not trying to incite a negative riot, I'm trying to survey the emotions/action/reactions of the molding world." Sounds a little like riot inciting to me. :) Sorry you're so unhappy.